Comments on: Cooking with Chas: Rating the 2009 Hall of Fame Class (Part 1) http://www.pickinsplinters.com/2009/01/09/cooking-with-chas-rating-the-2009-hall-of-fame-class-part-1/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=cooking-with-chas-rating-the-2009-hall-of-fame-class-part-1 There's always room for one more on the bench. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:56:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Casey http://www.pickinsplinters.com/2009/01/09/cooking-with-chas-rating-the-2009-hall-of-fame-class-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3270 Casey Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:21:14 +0000 http://www.pickinsplinters.com/?p=1599#comment-3270 Where did Paul Byrd end up going? Where did Paul Byrd end up going?

]]> By: Chas http://www.pickinsplinters.com/2009/01/09/cooking-with-chas-rating-the-2009-hall-of-fame-class-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3268 Chas Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:12:05 +0000 http://www.pickinsplinters.com/?p=1599#comment-3268 Welcome back, Rey. The Phillies signed Raul Ibanez to play left field, before Burrell left town. As far as the Red Sox are concerned, I think Buchholz is out of the mix...traded or back down in AAA, at least to start the season. Smoltz, Penny and Wakefield round out the final two spots in the rotation. I doubt all three of them will be healthy and effective, but between the three of them, they might do a nice job of filling two spots. Welcome back, Rey. The Phillies signed Raul Ibanez to play left field, before Burrell left town.

As far as the Red Sox are concerned, I think Buchholz is out of the mix…traded or back down in AAA, at least to start the season. Smoltz, Penny and Wakefield round out the final two spots in the rotation. I doubt all three of them will be healthy and effective, but between the three of them, they might do a nice job of filling two spots.

]]> By: Casey http://www.pickinsplinters.com/2009/01/09/cooking-with-chas-rating-the-2009-hall-of-fame-class-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3266 Casey Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:56:42 +0000 http://www.pickinsplinters.com/?p=1599#comment-3266 Wakefield is still in the mix. Smoltz is a nice insurance plan when Wakefield makes his annual trip to the DL. That spot used to be reserved for Julian Tavarez. How much did Epstein increase the sanity level of the Sox when he released Tavarez? Wakefield is still in the mix. Smoltz is a nice insurance plan when Wakefield makes his annual trip to the DL. That spot used to be reserved for Julian Tavarez. How much did Epstein increase the sanity level of the Sox when he released Tavarez?

]]> By: Rey http://www.pickinsplinters.com/2009/01/09/cooking-with-chas-rating-the-2009-hall-of-fame-class-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3265 Rey Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:41:13 +0000 http://www.pickinsplinters.com/?p=1599#comment-3265 Hot Stove questions for you Chas - I have followed zero baseball the last few months. Who will the Phils get (or have already gotten) to replace Burrell? No clue the Red Sox got BOTH Penny and Smoltz. That is a heck of a rotation. Smoltz to the bullpen? Or does he have a significant spot in the rotation? Lester, Penny, Dice-K, Beckett, Buchholz. Is that their 5-man? Hot Stove questions for you Chas – I have followed zero baseball the last few months. Who will the Phils get (or have already gotten) to replace Burrell?

No clue the Red Sox got BOTH Penny and Smoltz. That is a heck of a rotation. Smoltz to the bullpen? Or does he have a significant spot in the rotation? Lester, Penny, Dice-K, Beckett, Buchholz. Is that their 5-man?

]]> By: Chas http://www.pickinsplinters.com/2009/01/09/cooking-with-chas-rating-the-2009-hall-of-fame-class-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3240 Chas Sun, 11 Jan 2009 16:34:00 +0000 http://www.pickinsplinters.com/?p=1599#comment-3240 One could easily make the case that Blyleven was no better than very good. He's an interesting one. I was swayed in his favor a year or so ago, but I could understand not thinking so. One could easily make the case that Blyleven was no better than very good. He’s an interesting one. I was swayed in his favor a year or so ago, but I could understand not thinking so.

]]> By: Wally http://www.pickinsplinters.com/2009/01/09/cooking-with-chas-rating-the-2009-hall-of-fame-class-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3237 Wally Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:36:52 +0000 http://www.pickinsplinters.com/?p=1599#comment-3237 Bert Be Home Blyleven. Now there's a guy I think who ought to be in the Hall. This is a real headscratcher. 287 wins over roughly 22 seasons ... a 3.31 career ERA ... 3,700 K's ... a workhorse 4,970 innings or an average of 226 per year!!! Numbers are very comparable to Fergie Jenkins who had an 18 yr career ... better winning % ... but a 3.34 ERA ... 284 wins ... 3192 K's. Jenkins played for some really good Cubs teams (did I just say that?!?!?). Actually they were pretty good ... and heartbreaking in the late 60's and early 70's. And Blyleven had one of the best curveballs we will ever see!!! Bert Be Home Blyleven. Now there’s a guy I think who ought to be in the Hall. This is a real headscratcher. 287 wins over roughly 22 seasons … a 3.31 career ERA … 3,700 K’s … a workhorse 4,970 innings or an average of 226 per year!!! Numbers are very comparable to Fergie Jenkins who had an 18 yr career … better winning % … but a 3.34 ERA … 284 wins … 3192 K’s. Jenkins played for some really good Cubs teams (did I just say that?!?!?). Actually they were pretty good … and heartbreaking in the late 60′s and early 70′s.

And Blyleven had one of the best curveballs we will ever see!!!

]]> By: Chas http://www.pickinsplinters.com/2009/01/09/cooking-with-chas-rating-the-2009-hall-of-fame-class-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3235 Chas Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:57:55 +0000 http://www.pickinsplinters.com/?p=1599#comment-3235 What's so interesting about the HOF voting is that there are so many players that some consider great and, therefore, worthy and others think are just very good. All of these players fall into this category: Raines, Dawson, Rice, Trammell, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker, Jack Morris, Mattingly, Blyleven, Tommy John, Lee Smith. Obviously, Wally and I have this common disagreement about Raines. What’s so interesting about the HOF voting is that there are so many players that some consider great and, therefore, worthy and others think are just very good. All of these players fall into this category: Raines, Dawson, Rice, Trammell, Dale Murphy, Dave Parker, Jack Morris, Mattingly, Blyleven, Tommy John, Lee Smith. Obviously, Wally and I have this common disagreement about Raines.

]]> By: Casey http://www.pickinsplinters.com/2009/01/09/cooking-with-chas-rating-the-2009-hall-of-fame-class-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3233 Casey Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:30:33 +0000 http://www.pickinsplinters.com/?p=1599#comment-3233 actually - the 'Hawk' won an MVP in Chicago. actually – the ‘Hawk’ won an MVP in Chicago.

]]> By: Smitty http://www.pickinsplinters.com/2009/01/09/cooking-with-chas-rating-the-2009-hall-of-fame-class-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3232 Smitty Sat, 10 Jan 2009 18:29:05 +0000 http://www.pickinsplinters.com/?p=1599#comment-3232 It is funny that so many of the Great Expos players dropped off after they days in Montreal were done.. Andre Dawson wasn't the same players when he left. Raines' numbers dropped off after he left. Vlad looks like he hurts everytime he runs - I just wonder how much of toll that surface took on those guys. Fortunately guys like Randy Johnson and Pedro Martinez didn't spend too much time up there before getting release from exile.. It is funny that so many of the Great Expos players dropped off after they days in Montreal were done..

Andre Dawson wasn’t the same players when he left. Raines’ numbers dropped off after he left. Vlad looks like he hurts everytime he runs – I just wonder how much of toll that surface took on those guys.

Fortunately guys like Randy Johnson and Pedro Martinez didn’t spend too much time up there before getting release from exile..

]]> By: Wally http://www.pickinsplinters.com/2009/01/09/cooking-with-chas-rating-the-2009-hall-of-fame-class-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3231 Wally Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:28:32 +0000 http://www.pickinsplinters.com/?p=1599#comment-3231 Chas -- Those are lots of great analytical arguments and I definitely see your POV, but I'm not sure those types of things are important to many of the voters. Remember, its not supposed to be the "Hall of Very Good" ... and Maybe Brock shouldn't have gotten in ... or gotten in so quickly ??? Chas —
Those are lots of great analytical arguments and I definitely see your POV, but I’m not sure those types of things are important to many of the voters. Remember, its not supposed to be the “Hall of Very Good” … and Maybe Brock shouldn’t have gotten in … or gotten in so quickly ???

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